A dialogue with Carri Lockhart, EVP Technology and Innovation in Equinor
By Johannes Wiik, Deloitte´s lead partner for energy in the Nordics. Photo of Carri Lockhart by Equinor
ONS and Deloitte Center for the Edge is running a series of Energy Talks. In this edition Johannes Wiik, Deloitte’s lead partner for energy in the Nordics, and Equinor’s Carri Lockhart, discuss the dilemmas and challenges around the energy transition (see the full video dialogue in the bottom).
Carri Lockhart is a petroleum engineer with 30 years of experience in the industry. She joined Equinor five years ago and holds the position of Executive Vice President for Technology and Innovation.
Over the years she has noticed that the industry’s license to operate is changing. Society expresses a strong demand for decarbonization, and so do investors if they are to grant companies access to capital.
The climate focus is not a license to operate anymore, it has become a license to exist, she says.
Lockhart says the willingness to improve and do what is right for the climate is strong. The challenge is finding the right solutions to reach this goal and speed up the energy transition. She emphasizes the need for strong collaboration between companies, societies, and governments so they can find the technological solutions and shape the fundamental policies to support markets. Predictable regulations will make it easier for the industry to adjust, so these should also be in place.
The path towards net zero emissions
Internationally, the experts are emphasizing the need for urgent action and the need to reach net zero emissions by 2050. According to the International Energy Agency we will not need new oil discoveries if we are to meet the Paris agreement.
Lockhart says the companies looking at ways to reach these goals have some common thoughts and concerns. They express the need for coordinated global efforts from authorities, from technology and innovation companies, consumers and from the industry alike.
Another prerequisite for the net zero emissions goal is significant growth in renewables, something she believes the industry is targeting well. She adds the need to focus on hydrogen, as well as carbon capture and storage (CCS) which are still very immature.
Since the markets are not established, collaboration needs to be quite robust for them to be enabled. The technology needs to be further evolved to make sure that green energy solutions are affordable and competitive.
-The energy transition is not moving fast enough. The speed of transformation and the industrial scaling of things like CCS and hydrogen depend on the market frameworks, the effect of legislation, predictable regulations, and technology readiness, Lockhart says.
The decreasing demand for oil and gas and the increasing demand for energy poses a challenge.
-Over 1 billion people still live without the basic energy needs being met. To disrupt oil and gas as an energy source is difficult to see happen because of the needs that must be met on a global basis.
At the same time, there are some tradeoffs like costs and technology requirements, and things to manage like storage and intermitted demand. Lockhart believes we must lower the total cost of energy, improve safety, and have effective infrastructure.
-In a sense, we are trying to cross a bridge that hasn’t been fully built, she says.
To be successful and relevant you need to have trust in society and the industry according to Carri Lockhart.
-Equinor has lost essential trust over recent years. Relevancy also means being actively engaged in the energy transition, and the industry hasn’t driven decarbonization fast enough, she says.
Lockhart says Equinor is focused on transparency and more consistent execution in performance management. They want to be transparent and deliver on promises.
-We need to work more closely together especially on oil and gas, renewables and decarbonizing the technology that is required. Lastly, we need to think about energy consumption and how much we are spending to produce the energy, she says.
For Equinor it is important to build on their long history of technology. Lockhart thinks being a world leader will help attract the talents they need for future growth and the energy transition. She believes that if they bring technology and digital innovation together, they are able to accelerate how they scale up solutions and develop new ways of working.
Lockhart mentions the need for companies to share data, something that will require a mindset shift.
We need to focus on how we approach data sharing. There are many tech success-stories that are results of collaboration and data sharing. We need to start thinking about how we can mutually benefit by sharing.
New business models
The need for new talent
Lockhart has noticed an eagerness among young people to be part of the energy transition solution. She believes it is because it is purpose driven and high-tech, something many find motivating.
– That’s something that we can leverage, and we need to be creative in how we attract talents, she points out.
Balancing sustainability needs
We still live in a very imbalanced world. 50% of the world owns 2/3 of global income and they use more than 1/3 of the energy. You have lifestyles among those 50% that many would classify as unsustainable and then on the complete opposite side you have parts of the world with no energy security at all.
-The challenge is to balance the progress on the climate agenda and the competing priorities of meeting the basic needs of people, health care, clean water, food, reliable energy. In many places, climate action is not the top priority when they don’t even have clean water. The western world has to be a driver but also a big supporter. Our behaviors need to continue to change and improve. The biggest impediment to engage in that change and help improve, is a lack of understanding of the needs of other societies. At the same time, each region of the world has to be committed to this. We cannot reach the goals otherwise.
Key hopes for the future
In the future, Carri Lockhart hopes we can look beyond our western world in the narrative and appreciate the global energy security basis.
-It is easy for us in the western world to picture the energy transition but in areas where the basic needs are not being met it is not as easy. The world must shift to more clean energy in total and at the end I believe that all energy sources will be necessary to meet the global demands. We need to make sure that people have access to clean, affordable and reliable energy in the future no matter where you are. I hope for less polarization of the debate in the future and that we work together.